1957 collision over pacoima
Unforgettable. I was 14 and will never forget it. as well as monks first hand account. INCLUDING MY BROTHER AND I, WE WERE IN THE AUDITORIUM, HE WAS GRADUATING AND I WAS IN B-9. He grabbed a jeep and took off for Terra Bella. I heard the planes crash, I watched the smoke rise, I ran inside our classroom with all the other kids wondering what we had just seen. Next there was dead silence in the classroom. I heard the screaming sound of the DC-7 coming in and caught a glimpse of things falling from the sky followed by a floor shaking explosion and flash of light. My dad, John Buchanan, moved on to LA Valley College from Pacoima Jr. High in 1958 so you wouldnt have been in his class. At PJHS, I was good friends with John Ritoli who played with a band called the Showmen. I couldnt tell from your message if you saw her there or not. Maybe 500 to 1000 feet off the ground. Two students were struck and killed by this wreckage and debris. Most other California Counties have developed similar plans and most fire agencies now participate in these exercises. Evan and I were in youth group together. They had come to the school because, of course, they had children there. And, other than the pictures my parents had of me, Ive not seen one of me until I saw the one on the page of the Pacoima Post. A lot of human misery occurred on that day. I actually ended up on this page because i had a nightmare about me sitting in a plaine while it crashed in my school, and first when i google it i ended up on this page : http://dreammoods.com/cgibin/dreamdictionarysearch.pl?method=exact&header=dreamsymbol&search=plane about dream symnols interpretation, and actually its no wonder it crashedinto school since i feel so streesed about my exams and getting accepted into a university. Junk that had been an DC-7 airplane, junk that had hurtled from the explosion, junk that maimed and killed our friends. My family was two houses from yours. There was fire. Three students and . And of course was concerned as to the whereabouts of his family. The post Nothing Encapsulates the False Promise of Capitalism Like Plastic appeared first on The Nation. I know three students died. Our teacher pushed us back into the safety of the classroom, where we stood at the windows for hours watching the emergecy crews working. She said she thought the kids wouldve survived a disaster better than she would have. A few months ago I was listening to the recording for the zillionth time, and decided to put it up on the blog. Thanks for writing and for your nice words about Evan. Eight people were killed, including three students at Pacoima Junior High School. He and his family were members of the Pacoima Congregational Church. wow that sent chills. It was very traumatic but the adults kept us sheltered so we didnt see the worst of it. And then someone pointed high in the sky and we saw a parachute (which turned out to be the surviving crewman of the F89) and watched it descend and it appeared to land not too far from our school. I was a little hesitant to post it at first because I didnt want to remind the families of that horrible day in such a real way. I was one of the students who was on the gym field and ran from the falling plane. I was young and that is all I know. Even at the tender age of six, a kid knows when an object that big falls out of the sky, something is very wrong. Its all over, implying that the deafening sound they had just heard was a sonic boom (it was actually the planes wing exploding just above the ground, spraying hot oil and shrapnel in all directions). The post Haiti, April 2023: Soon There Will Be No One Left to Kidnap appeared first on The Nation. I googled the crash to see when it occurred and was brought to your article. In fact, Paul and my father were colleagues during the 50s when dad taught at Pacoima. I went on to read many of your wonderfully insightful articles. Im always struck by how widespread the interest in Richie Valens continues to be so long after his death. So no, I have no lasting fears of flying. Elementary School. Try again later. In short, my opinion is.GREAT JOB, MY FRIEND!!! An incredible bonding experience that lasted 50 years or more after graduation from high school. We drove home in silence. I would like to know why, as I said nothing derogatory in any way. It wasnt exactly the way I remembered it, but it was there. I was amazed to run across your recording of the sounds of that tragic day. Thanks for all your memories and thoughts about tragic morning..it would nice if we could find a way to have get together to see how we have all grown up! Unfortunately, I havent a clue what the answer is. I guess the real though posthumous thanks for this post should go to my dad, who kept the tape in such good shape for so many years. She lived right on across the street from the school. But he NEVER complains or asks why me?This recording is riveting. John 3:16 [1] [2] [3] Accident [ edit] I looked at the newspaper page showing the pictures of those of us who were injured and saw mine and his. I do still live in the Valley, but far from good old Beachy. Today, I still have problems with low flying planes, which happens often in Littlerock, CA. When I started in the fire service everyone was expected to just suck it up, and as many of you know, its not easy!. He got doused with boiling hot oil from the plane. Thank you for complimenting my youthful selfs social skills. I remember walking down Pierce St. to Richard Kellers house one day and Rusty was playing lead guitar with the Showmen practicing in a garage. Indeed, I owe a very heartfelt thanks to your dad my sister and dad were in the classrooms, and my mother and I were in one of the houses. The plane crash last month wasn't the first for Pacoima residents. Kris. locker rooms, I started searching for our dad. I was in class, a distance from the ball fields, but we saw the flash and thought it was a bomb. Blessings to those who were hurt and my thoughts are with the families of those who passed away. When the plane hit I was running. Kris. The remains of Carr, Twitchell and the other crew members -- radio operator Roy Nakazawa, 28, and flight engineer Waldo B. Adams, 42, both of Los Angeles -- were found in the fuselage, which smacked into the ground at Pacoima Congregational Church, adjacent to the school. When we were finally allowed to leave the P.E. In my mind he was waving frantically for us to get out of the way. I had no idea Phyllis had gone out on the field to retrieve her jacket. I wish that there was more footage, pictures, audio, and varies stories recalling the events that took place that day available on the internet. Does anyone know who this kid is? Upon our arrival, she called the school to tell them that I had been found. Niccol Barca, Tommaso Grossi Many have dubbed the new Democratic Party leader the Italian AOC. Heres why she has her work cut out for her. Jul 6, 2018 | Lance Geiger, Show More Support The History Guy If you love history, this is the channel to support! Note from Russ Buchanan to those who were there: Pacoima Jr. High alum Terry Brown, who was badly injured in the crash but has never been able to recall what happened that day, would like to speak to anyone who has a recollection of the events especially someone who might have some idea of what happened to him. It was loud enough (even though we were a few miles away) that we at first felt we were vulnerable. The History Guy remembers a mid-air collision between two planes flying test flights over a California city and its connection to Ritchie Valens.This is original content based on research by The History Guy. Thanks for commenting. I graduated 1969. Although hosting these Pacoima pages has turned out to be a labor of love and learning experience for me, I truly appreciate the thanks. When we caught sight of the aircraft it appeared that its decent was nearly vertical. Killed in the crash were three Pacoima students, the pilot of the F-89 and the four-man crew of the DC-7, whose final words to traffic control were, Uncontrollablewere spinning over the Valley. He had been a radio announcer before becoming a teacher, so you can imagine how many tapes there were. When the plane hit, the shock waves rolled me over and over and over. Our family lived at 13328 Kagel Cyn. Another boy beat out the flames with his leather jacket. . Yes, Russ, Phyllis and I did see each other at the reunion. We attended the 50 yr memorial and tree planting at the school Jan. 31, 2007. For weeks after the crash there were people on the field, on hands and knees, picking up pieces of the wreckage. I came to this site preparing for my 50 year Polytechnic High School class reunion September 14 & 15 in Ventura, CA. I was five years Oldfield at a nearby nursery school when this happened. Thanks for the opportunity. The most vivid memory I have of that day was of my moms worry (her husband and daughter were at Pacoima JH that day). I was in auditorium when this happened,,,there was the loud boom and some shaking of the building. I now know. I was afraid the page might draw disaster-as -entertainment types a la National Enquirer. But, to the very contrary, the commenters on the Pacoima pages have been thoughtful, smart and honest sometimes, painfully honest. He played it for us once. .I have watched many videos of ww2 bombers returning home after having suffered incredible damage to both wings and tail..yet they could still fly it . After talking to the school, she told me that school would be closed for a few days until they could clean off the fence. Even though the comments here concern a tragic day in the old neighborhood, reading them reminds me of my old stomping grounds and what a terrific place it was to spend my first 17 years. As you are probably aware, many credit your father for managing to avoid nearby buildings and preventing a much larger calamityyes, thank you Russ, for adding to the story! Years later, my husband worked with a gentlemen named Pat, who lost his leg in the event. I remember how scared my brother and I were, I still can vividly see that that plane crashing. The most incredible image of all was the open window in the cockpit area with smoke coming out of it and what appeared to be the pilot with his head partially out. I will never know if that was the reason. As I got older, I guessed that the jets that were coming and going were probably working the other incident, the downed Scorpion. I found your Pacoima crash page very informative and well written. Outside, we could see the carnage. Thanks. were often part of the proceedings. I am grateful. I miss that school so much. God bless all of those who had family that were involved. Someone from school had called my mom to see if I had run home. That September, the brand new Liggett St. The heat from the 100 foot tall flames to my right were hotter than the oil I was laying in. I attended Fernaneles Elementer, in sun valley 6 th grade. At Beachy, I remember being in the classes of Mrs. Oshatz and Mr. Marto. Hi, Dave The only memories I have of the day were the metal bits raining down and my very nervous mother (my sister and father were both on campus when the plane came down). By the time they let us out of school, the bodies and the injured were taken away, we saw them fly over our heads in the helicopters, but the wreckage was still there, everywhere. We were both very lucky that day. On January 31, 1957, a Douglas DC-7B transport plane crashed into the school yard of Pacoima Junior High School, 9919 Laurel Canyon Boulevard, after colliding with a Northrop F-89J Scorpion jet trainer plane. My mother, Pauline Taylor, covered the story as a reporter for the Pacoima Post. Looking up with all my friends, we saw a huge black cloud of smoke and the planes falling to earth. I remember seeing the pilot also. I was 5 years old. As it completed the turn, the jet slammed into the wing of a DC-7B transport plane returning to Douglas Aircrafts Santa Monica plant on a routine test run. Since the book was published, I started a website with a section called The Stories Behind the Stones. The intention of that section is to tell the stories of people who are buried in cemeteries around Los Angeles. She saw the plane go down, and needless to say, was at the school in only a few minutes. And when I got out my parents had moved us to Palmdale. The impact tossed me through the air and I landed in a hot smoking oil slick. I felt sick and light headed. He was just a really good guy and very well liked. I sure miss that guy. Thanks for the info. The teacher on gate duty lead me and other kids back into a classroom. Not long after that we moved to Northern California. I retired in 2001 and am down to about one a month now. One day near the end of my involvement with the family, she said something about body parts, children running and screaming, and airplane. As we ran outside I could see the carnage from the crash, some bodies and pieces of plane laying everywhere. I assume youre referring to Mark Maseks CemeteryGuide.com Stories Behind the Stones. Anyway after school mom would drive us all over to Joyces house to pick her up for babysitting. My mom came running out of the house, screaming for me to come home. The police and ambulances finally arrived in droves, driving on sidewalks and front lawns to reach the school because the roads were clogged with frantic parents. However, it appears you overcame your fear of flying IN A BIG WAY. We had moved to Pacoima at the beginning of the school year. I would like to listen to your audio recording, but havent been able to make it work. I was 9 yrs old and my brother was 11 yrs old, students at Canyon Elementary School, and my mother, Margaret Eck Carr, came to Canyon Elementary shortly after she heard the news on T.V. Its crazy how she just said we have one life to live right before it happened. Russ, thanks for the time and effort to post and manage this thread. Ah, the good old days. I am surprised at myself. I still remember some of the kids in my classes like Craig Bentley, Walter Gorse, Jeff Abraham, Pam Gates, Scott Roberts, Suzanne Maltz, Dennis Liff, Jim Roubal, As far as teachers, I remember Mr. Marto, Mrs. Oshatz, Mrs. Stowsky and I believe it was Mr. Praglin who taught class and kept his pack of cigarettes in his front shirt pocket. This site has confirmed my memories of the crash. I am sure she did this out of pure fear and not knowing what to expect. Like you, I was unsure whether I had actually seen what I remembered as shiny, tin foil-like bits of metal falling from the sky, or if Id somehow developed the memory from repeatedly hearing others accounts. The sky was sprinkled with what looked like silver paper fluttering over our heads. Hello, Pamela As for the students, I remember Craig Bentley, Suzanne Maltz (vaguely rings a bell), Dennis Liff and Jim Roubal. I can remember it like yesterday. Part of an engine crashed through the roof of the church auditorium, smashing windows and destroying that building. Mary Jo (and Kathy) Losso. Ill tell her you said hello. I couldnt believe what I was looking at. Thank you for posting this remarkable, memorable recording and retelling of the events on that fateful day. The fire seemed to be out, but things were still smoking. I think I was about a year after you. On January 31, 1957, a DC-7B transport plane collided in mid-air with a Northrop F-89J Scorpion jet trainer plane and the debris fell to earth on the Pacoima Junior High School playground where about 220 boys were just ending their day's athletic activities. She wanted to tell us about the crash before anyone else at the school. Not to mention, the lifelong fear of flying that many witnesses have to this day. The class had just started to file out for recess when the whine of the plane cought our attention. Two years after the Pacoima disaster, Valens was killed along with his fellow performers and tour mates, J.P. Big Bopper Richardson and Buddy Holly when their light plane crashed near Clear Lake, Iowa. Hello Russ, thank you for these pages. Sincerely, But the recording captured the sound it made as if it were yesterday. I, too, remember bits of metal raining down against the blue sky. In 1957, a plane collision crash killed seven people two pilots and two crew members, . Wouldnt happen in this day and age. Look in your email I wrote you. Men were working on jets in different states of repair. You and mom said even less. Thanks for your comment and compassionate thoughts. My father and sister were both on the Pacoima campus when it happened my dad as a teacher and my sister Pam as a thirteen year-old student (it was her birthday). Marilyn Richards. But strangely, that is all I remember. Yeah, I know what you mean about roots. 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